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	<title>Comments on: Growing Your Faith as a Person with a Mental Illness</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Webb</title>
		<link>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-6783</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Gary Mills; I am responding as a committed, born-again, "Bible-believing", evangelical (plus whatever other criteria you may need) Christian who battles with major depression and other mood disorders every day.

One of the unfortunate things about our language is that a single word may have a wide variety of meanings; for example, what we encapsulate in the word "love" is spread out over four different ones in Greek! "Depression" is another word with a wide span of meanings.

It seems you use "depression" in the common sense of "the blues", down feelings, the feelings from disappointments and other transient things. These kinds of feelings and thoughts often pass by themselves over a 

"Depression" as meant here might be better described as "major depression", "clinical depression", "medical-grade depression" and the like. It is a medical condition, brought on by many different kinds of causes,  and plunges a person into a deep emotional abyss that they cannot control. This kind of depression involves a malfunction of the brain just as real as my diabetes is caused by a malfunction of my pancreas, people's thyroid conditions are caused by a malfunction of the thyroid, dwarfism and giantism are caused by a malfunction of the pituitary gland, and so on. Things that help someone in a transitory or situational depression more than often do not help someone with medical-grade depression, esp. to the level where they can get out of it. Same with the other mental illnesses; it's a whole different ball of wax.

I believe that the spirit (and God's Spirit) are involved in healing from these conditions, at the same time recognizing that relatively few receive the same kind of instantaneous healing that Peter's mother-in-law received. I don't understand it all; much of it falls into the category of "mystery"; things we either don't have the full information on or simply can't process with our limited human minds. I am on a spiritual quest to learn about the way our spirit-man is involved in mental health and how to find healing.

In the meantime, friend, I encourage you to listen and seek to understand and not to judge. Most people who have never had this kind of condition have no clue what those of us who do deal with on a daily basis. In some ways it's like Christian conversion; one can't really understand what it means to be born again until you have been. 

God bless you, friend. Open your mind to keep learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Gary Mills; I am responding as a committed, born-again, &#8220;Bible-believing&#8221;, evangelical (plus whatever other criteria you may need) Christian who battles with major depression and other mood disorders every day.</p>
<p>One of the unfortunate things about our language is that a single word may have a wide variety of meanings; for example, what we encapsulate in the word &#8220;love&#8221; is spread out over four different ones in Greek! &#8220;Depression&#8221; is another word with a wide span of meanings.</p>
<p>It seems you use &#8220;depression&#8221; in the common sense of &#8220;the blues&#8221;, down feelings, the feelings from disappointments and other transient things. These kinds of feelings and thoughts often pass by themselves over a </p>
<p>&#8220;Depression&#8221; as meant here might be better described as &#8220;major depression&#8221;, &#8220;clinical depression&#8221;, &#8220;medical-grade depression&#8221; and the like. It is a medical condition, brought on by many different kinds of causes,  and plunges a person into a deep emotional abyss that they cannot control. This kind of depression involves a malfunction of the brain just as real as my diabetes is caused by a malfunction of my pancreas, people&#8217;s thyroid conditions are caused by a malfunction of the thyroid, dwarfism and giantism are caused by a malfunction of the pituitary gland, and so on. Things that help someone in a transitory or situational depression more than often do not help someone with medical-grade depression, esp. to the level where they can get out of it. Same with the other mental illnesses; it&#8217;s a whole different ball of wax.</p>
<p>I believe that the spirit (and God&#8217;s Spirit) are involved in healing from these conditions, at the same time recognizing that relatively few receive the same kind of instantaneous healing that Peter&#8217;s mother-in-law received. I don&#8217;t understand it all; much of it falls into the category of &#8220;mystery&#8221;; things we either don&#8217;t have the full information on or simply can&#8217;t process with our limited human minds. I am on a spiritual quest to learn about the way our spirit-man is involved in mental health and how to find healing.</p>
<p>In the meantime, friend, I encourage you to listen and seek to understand and not to judge. Most people who have never had this kind of condition have no clue what those of us who do deal with on a daily basis. In some ways it&#8217;s like Christian conversion; one can&#8217;t really understand what it means to be born again until you have been. </p>
<p>God bless you, friend. Open your mind to keep learning.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 Ways Churches Can Minister to Those with Mental Illness at Brownblog</title>
		<link>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-6449</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Ways Churches Can Minister to Those with Mental Illness at Brownblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-6449</guid>
		<description>[...] was voted by PsychCentral.com as one of the top 10 depression blogs. Her first guest blog post was Growing Your Faith as a Person with a Mental Illness, seriously worth checking out if you missed it. In this stunning post Therese writes on how [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] was voted by PsychCentral.com as one of the top 10 depression blogs. Her first guest blog post was Growing Your Faith as a Person with a Mental Illness, seriously worth checking out if you missed it. In this stunning post Therese writes on how [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Mills</title>
		<link>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-6038</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-6038</guid>
		<description>Why be depressed ? Every day you have the opportunity of changing your life.Upon waking, you have the choice to try a new way, or go back into the familiar rut.Some people just choose to be depressed because their habits form their character.

Habits are hard to break...if your habit is a cycle of morbid gloom then it will take over. There is a whole awesome world out there...you have been given, by God... the gift of life to live...not exist in self absorbed pity.

Most depression starts with thoughts of failure, sorrows or regrets from the past. Move on today, live for tomorrow. Happiness starts when we laugh at ourselves...and don't take ourselves too seriously.

And yes, I've lived with tragedy, heartache, obstacles of life, depression, self doubt and failure....and I've lived with humour...hope,vigour, enthusiasm, enlightenment and success. It all starts with YOU deciding you are going to live a principled, fulfilled, hay life...never mind anyone else.Be true to yourself...then God's way will be revealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why be depressed ? Every day you have the opportunity of changing your life.Upon waking, you have the choice to try a new way, or go back into the familiar rut.Some people just choose to be depressed because their habits form their character.</p>
<p>Habits are hard to break&#8230;if your habit is a cycle of morbid gloom then it will take over. There is a whole awesome world out there&#8230;you have been given, by God&#8230; the gift of life to live&#8230;not exist in self absorbed pity.</p>
<p>Most depression starts with thoughts of failure, sorrows or regrets from the past. Move on today, live for tomorrow. Happiness starts when we laugh at ourselves&#8230;and don&#8217;t take ourselves too seriously.</p>
<p>And yes, I&#8217;ve lived with tragedy, heartache, obstacles of life, depression, self doubt and failure&#8230;.and I&#8217;ve lived with humour&#8230;hope,vigour, enthusiasm, enlightenment and success. It all starts with YOU deciding you are going to live a principled, fulfilled, hay life&#8230;never mind anyone else.Be true to yourself&#8230;then God&#8217;s way will be revealed.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Ndebele</title>
		<link>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-5914</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Ndebele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-5914</guid>
		<description>My heart goes out to all those who are caged in by this monstrous condition. This perspective has opened my eyes to a world I only knew in adverts. But to all those who are suffering because of this condition, I say believe in god who heals all our diseases. confess the word of God during those blissful times to counter the negative times. when we fill our hearts with the word of God we create faith, which can move mountains and heal    &lt;a href="http://christianliving-alndex.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;TEXT&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to all those who are caged in by this monstrous condition. This perspective has opened my eyes to a world I only knew in adverts. But to all those who are suffering because of this condition, I say believe in god who heals all our diseases. confess the word of God during those blissful times to counter the negative times. when we fill our hearts with the word of God we create faith, which can move mountains and heal    <a href="http://christianliving-alndex.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">TEXT</a></p>
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		<title>By: SENE</title>
		<link>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-4573</link>
		<dc:creator>SENE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-4573</guid>
		<description>Thank you for this blog; a blog after mine own heart. I could relate to so many of the mental processes. 

However, “we idealize depression, associating it with perceptiveness, interpersonal sensitivity and other virtues”...“we may find that heroic melancholy is no more”.  I've not encountered this way of thinking.  My cultural circle does not extol the virtues of depression; if anything it is intolerant of its hindrances to the everyday life of the individual, and how that will impact the collective.  

I've hidden my tendencies well.  I've tried medication on two occasions, and both times I chose the hovering dark cloud over the alternative, a mental haze with zero visibility.  

A few years ago I discovered Christian counselling; through prayer, God's Word, and an openness to hear the Lord and to trust Him I've discovered it's okay to be melancholic in nature, it's okay to walk in faith at a snail's pace, and it's okay to be different from others - even Christians - because the Lord accepts me just as I am, wherever I'm at, whatever I'm wearing, however I look; and best of all, He's always with me!

Does it mean I am free from depression and anxiety attacks?  Sadly, the answer is an all too real NO.  I can spend hours working through it; sometimes I am victorious, and sometimes I am not.  I believe life is for living so in my moments of defeat, self-hate, and utter despair I prayerfully (and tearfully) go through how I will do things differently.  God is good and ultimately the victory is His.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this blog; a blog after mine own heart. I could relate to so many of the mental processes. </p>
<p>However, “we idealize depression, associating it with perceptiveness, interpersonal sensitivity and other virtues”&#8230;“we may find that heroic melancholy is no more”.  I&#8217;ve not encountered this way of thinking.  My cultural circle does not extol the virtues of depression; if anything it is intolerant of its hindrances to the everyday life of the individual, and how that will impact the collective.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve hidden my tendencies well.  I&#8217;ve tried medication on two occasions, and both times I chose the hovering dark cloud over the alternative, a mental haze with zero visibility.  </p>
<p>A few years ago I discovered Christian counselling; through prayer, God&#8217;s Word, and an openness to hear the Lord and to trust Him I&#8217;ve discovered it&#8217;s okay to be melancholic in nature, it&#8217;s okay to walk in faith at a snail&#8217;s pace, and it&#8217;s okay to be different from others - even Christians - because the Lord accepts me just as I am, wherever I&#8217;m at, whatever I&#8217;m wearing, however I look; and best of all, He&#8217;s always with me!</p>
<p>Does it mean I am free from depression and anxiety attacks?  Sadly, the answer is an all too real NO.  I can spend hours working through it; sometimes I am victorious, and sometimes I am not.  I believe life is for living so in my moments of defeat, self-hate, and utter despair I prayerfully (and tearfully) go through how I will do things differently.  God is good and ultimately the victory is His.</p>
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		<title>By: Therese Borchard</title>
		<link>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-4399</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese Borchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-4399</guid>
		<description>Thanks for your thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
		<link>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-4392</link>
		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-4392</guid>
		<description>I really appreciate those that have the courage to talk about mental illness especially in relation to faith. It's no secret amongst those that know me that I have battled with severe depression and anxiety for years. 
I can honestly say that I no longer suffer. I went on a healing retreat with Ellel Ministries about six months ago. The change in me has been dramatic - I laugh so much more often and more readily, I don't have anxiety attacks any more, I'm not on medication and I don't live my life ion a constant state of fear. There have been some unexpected bonuses as well, I no longer have back pain, my neck and shoulder pain has severely reduced, I've lost weight with no change to my routine and I can sit up straighter. 
The idea of deliverance ministry used to fill me with unwavering sceptism or fear until it became apparent to my husband and I that my sickness had spirtual elements. It was still a few years later that we figured out what to do about it and then for me to get up the courage. If this piqued anybody's interest I would recommend checking them out www.ellelministries.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate those that have the courage to talk about mental illness especially in relation to faith. It&#8217;s no secret amongst those that know me that I have battled with severe depression and anxiety for years.<br />
I can honestly say that I no longer suffer. I went on a healing retreat with Ellel Ministries about six months ago. The change in me has been dramatic - I laugh so much more often and more readily, I don&#8217;t have anxiety attacks any more, I&#8217;m not on medication and I don&#8217;t live my life ion a constant state of fear. There have been some unexpected bonuses as well, I no longer have back pain, my neck and shoulder pain has severely reduced, I&#8217;ve lost weight with no change to my routine and I can sit up straighter.<br />
The idea of deliverance ministry used to fill me with unwavering sceptism or fear until it became apparent to my husband and I that my sickness had spirtual elements. It was still a few years later that we figured out what to do about it and then for me to get up the courage. If this piqued anybody&#8217;s interest I would recommend checking them out <a href="http://www.ellelministries.org" rel="nofollow">www.ellelministries.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bosco Peters</title>
		<link>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-4390</link>
		<dc:creator>Bosco Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://brownblog.info/?p=751#comment-4390</guid>
		<description>Thought-provoking, and inspiring.
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought-provoking, and inspiring.<br />
Thanks</p>
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